Showing posts with label summer league. Show all posts
Showing posts with label summer league. Show all posts

Niji: Sunday Pick-up 8/14/10

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Played really beast today. At least on offense.

Really clicked with Jei and Sunshine today, and my hucks were on point and caught in stride. UPWIND. Against 7ft Eric and Yosh. Filthy.

Threw the best backhand breakmark huck I've prolly ever thrown. Awesome.

Played like my usual squirrely ass self but running diesel. I did work.
Sunshine described my playing as fun to watch because the "disc never stopped in (my) hands". Cool.
Shredded defenses with one two punches and then deep shots or large gains. I love this style of play, cuz its so low risk, yet you just get to SHRED. woohoo
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Bobby Summer League: 8/11

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Sweet game today, won 15-14 after being down 10-4 soon after half. We played really well 2nd half: 11-6 is pretty heavy domination so that was sweet. Both teams only had 7, so it was a bit of an endurance match and I think athletically they lined up a little bit better than us in terms of speed and we were able to grind out the win as they got tired.


A few cool happenings: caught 3 scores in a row that all got called back... kinda cool, obviously annoying, decided to go for an in cut on the 4th chance, shoulda gone for the score again to one up those bitches from gainesville.

Threw for a couple of assists, some nice hucks which was cool after not playing for almost 2 weeks

I am in a pretty good place athletically as I didn't get too tired playing for like 1:45 straight (we skipped half time and used only 1 time out collectively lol)

The ability to catch well with either hand is pretty important, i have been working on using both hands just throwing around with my brother and it was super helpful on a couple of scores where i went up and grabbed them with my left hand instead of my right

Handler on our team complimented me on an IO break flick, im pretty sure i could be the best handler on the team if that's what i had wanted to do, I'm glad i've worked on cutting though, biggest thing i've learned so far= patience is key, its actually pretty damn easy to get open just wait for your chance

Got some sweet poach D's

Couple not so good happenings: I still try to force throws a little too much especially in the endzone. Also threw a real shitty huck because I hadn't completely committed to the throw, its almost always better to throw it a bit long than short, let your man run to it. 2 turns in all is ok, but not where I want to be in the end especially cause im not handling on a consistent basis

I'm excited for playing with a real team again, the general lack of speed and athleticism on my team is frustrating to say the least, people were getting beat consistently deep which is why they were able to jump out to such a commanding lead early. Also, throwing to slower targets is annoying



Interesting things: Main handler for the other team went to Emory and said he had practiced with chain lightning which is sick. He is a nice guy and a pretty solid player that we will have to watch out for if we play them again next year, super quick and pretty good throws though not very tall. Loved running strike, so I just decided to take that away and almost give him dump throws, then play super aggressive mark, almost came up with like 3 point blocks, which is a definite meh, but forced some bad throws. Anyway, we talked about his team getting thrown out of the movie theater at regionals, that was frigging hilarious. Hopefully, we will play them at some point.

Missed a couple of chances at bid D's because the field was like running on chicken wire and i bitched out, again reinforces the idea that you really need to be aware of the terrain around you before you start playing. Whether the ground is soft in one spot and therefore hard to run through or whether it is too rough to bid on you need to be aware and play your man accordingly.
On a side note to the grass on the field sucking, the field had a major slope to it which affected both the way we forced as well as some of the game play. We forced downhill the entire time, not completely sure why, but i guess it seemed to work out, not sure if this is better than forcing the other way. Practical application of this knowledge=0 but is it kinda interesting? I think so. Also, one of the major issues I had with the slope was on a floaty throw into the end-zone where i judged my jump to catch it at its highest point but came up short because the slope took the ground out from under me, and we missed what could have been an easy score... frustrating.




Anyway, my finals are on Saturday, wish me luck. I'm really pumped for a real tournament and hopefully we will at least make the finals(we are the 2 seed) because probably the best guy I have played against this summer is on the top seeded team and I want to D up on him again and hopefully shut him down with some tournament adrenaline going. 1 comments

Sean: WAFC Advanced #4

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Played against Alan's team today. Lost on universe 15-16, I think. Great game. I'm pissed to be honest haha.

Comments on Alan and his teammates:
Alan: As a handler would exploit any poach, to any cutter. Breaks no matter what.
Trevor: Seems like he's a cutter if he plays club. Dunno if he handles, maybe. Reason why I say he is a cutter is because he was so good at it haha. Always moving, aware of where the disc was.
Jenny: I mentioned to her that she exploited space really well. I'm gonna officially retract that and say Alan and her work well together on the field. They both know where they want it, and what the other is capable of. Invaluable.
Others: They had two guys on their team that were really terrible haha. Clogged the lane, predictable cuts, easy to cover. Well, harder to cover if Alan had the disc.

Mistakes made:
1. Shouldve bid twice. Once for a possible callahan, another for a score. Womp.
2. Let Alan go strike too much.
3. Sometimes terrible body positioning on D.

Things to work on:
1. Catching D's.
2. Fakes.
3. Not poaching on experienced players. Only happened once, but it fucked me over anyways.

Things done well on:
1. Handler and Dump D, for the most part...maybe haha.
2. D in general.
3. Finding the open space for cuts, timing.
4. Popping.
5. Rarely let the better players poach off of me, and exploited it when they did.

So, back to why I am pissed. We lost on universe. Turned it over near the endzone, other team sent it back for the score. Our vert stack was clogged as fuck. Everyone was to blame, including myself. Definitely would've won the game if we cleared up space and kept swinging the disc. And what makes me even madder was that I macked the disc to Alan twice for scores. Catch the fucking D Sean. On the bright side, two more assists??? Lol, no. But I turned it over only once, and got a few scores. Honestly a good game for me, but I want to perform so much better. Disappointed. 0 comments

Sean: WAFC Advanced #4

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Played near savage this time, but I got just as much playing time as before. The other team had numbers including Nardo Zatch and some totally irresponsible dude named Sergei. He has a thick Russian accent. I think he's a spy, like all the other Russian-Arlington Spys. Lost 15-16.

Note on Sergei: Sometimes a complete newb is better than an experienced player who plays dumb/selfish. Sergei is a great example of a dumb, selfish player for many reasons. First he would cut into the force-side lane whenever he saw fit. Second he would not look dump till stall 7. Finally he would risk an upfield force side scoober for the score rather than dump to the two open guys behind him. Lol. For future reference, when building up a team whether at the Club or College level it is best to include people who are willing to enact on advice given or can be molded. Sergei is unwillling to do either, thrusting him into the damnation that is eternal league play.

Things to work on:

Something was wrong with my throws for about three points. I would try risky shit and it would work half the time, too small of a margin. So I logically made sure to take my time on my throws, patiently waiting for a strong dump. Sadly I messed up these throws too. Twice in a row haha. As Zatch ironically told me, its better to get out of your head in the game and just play the game. After the unforced turns I "just played the game". Soon I was laying out and getting scores and D's.

1. Faking in order to setup a breakside throw.
2. High release backhand hucks.
3. Bidding, though I finally had a legit bid D, just not for the turn.
4. Foot position on D. Twice caught off balance when the rest of my body was otherwise prepared.
5. Warming up. Do it for longer and harder until I feel tired. Then rest. Then I'm warmed up.

Things I did well on:

1. Got some D's. The two most remarkable were a dump D and a sky D.
2. One huck (I threw two total, both for scores) was great. Flick huck near sideline for a cutter in between two defenders. The other was floaty as shit. Laughably I did not see it complete because I was covering my face with my shirt in shame. Hahaha.
3. Cutting. Still nigh impossible to cut efficiently in a Ho when fellow cutters DO NOT CLEAR QUICK ENOUGH. As a result of lead-foot, I am forced to make shitty sideline continuation cuts. This cut can be useful for movements sake because I would dump it middle immediately. Teammates opt for a short sideline continuation cut.
4. Defense. Just remembered, D'd some handler BS between Zach and some teammate of his. Hehe. Though he did score on me twice. Though I scored on him twice...and D'd him once. Bwahaha.
5. Transition D near the endzone. Backed off the mark ten feet for about three or four seconds. From there collapsed in for dump pressure. 0 comments

Sean: WAFC Advanced #3

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Played savage vs. savage. Won 15-13.

Things to work on:

1. Leading the receiver, hucks. Put one waaayyyy deep and high, and the dude caught it in the endzone. But any competent defender could have D'd it. If the receiver is slow, put it where he can get it.
2. Take initiative. Don't allow lesser players to put themselves in critical situations, including myself. Except it's summer league and not that serious. So I can mess up all I want haha.
3. In Hydra wait for the cutter to make his cut.
4. Catch then think of throwing.

Things I did well on:

1. Cutting, almost always open whether short or deep.
2. Continuation throws, continuation cuts to a lesser extent.
3. Defense. Only got beat once, break side in the endzone on a swing.
4. Got me some bookends. Beat my guy deep for a D and then beat my guy deep for a score.
5. Pulls. Floaty and near the back of the endzone.

Maybe another game of savage today. Woot. 0 comments

Summer Update

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Ready to get back to college ultimate. Forgot how to play basic defense, for a time. I think this is because upperclassmen aren't always advising me on how to play. Didnt realize it till now but what they say is of immense help.

The league team captain told me how to play dump D. I needed it. Womp.

My right hand is trying to adjust to two different flick grips. The problem is my overall arm movement. Womp.

I threw two turns to the same woman. The second one I put as much spin on the disc as I could. Womp.

I was told to be the third handler twice. Both times for a vert formation. Womp.

I played slow in a game because I ate only Lucky Charms that day. Told someone later about it, she said no excuses. Womp.

Couldve bid for a D. For the zillionth time. Womp.

Womp. 3 comments

Sean: WAFC Advanced #2

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Two reverse bookends, one bookend. Two fuck ups and one game winning play. Which matters most? The play that wins the game. Cause you play to win the game, right?

Reverse bookend #1: Dont know how I turned it, but got beat break side for the score.
Reverse bookend #2: Messed up an upfield throw (SIGH), got beat deep.

The latter was the worst. Both are terrible and harsh ways to mess up. Obvious things to improve upon. Fake throws more often in order to prevent a messed up upfield throw(less pressure from the mark) and position myself better and quicker for the jump D.

Bookend #1: Near Callahan, break cut from back of the stack for the game winning score.

I say near Callahan because I D'd the disc near the endzone. Looking back I am unsure of whether I could've caught the disc in the endzone for a Callahan. Nevertheless I am glad that I hit the disc instead of catch because our team had no more timeouts left. Our offense was able to setup a calm and structured offense and the go ahead game winner followed. Decision-making in frisbee can be complex because it depends on so many variables.

Final score: 15-14 2 comments

Sean: WAFC Advanced #1

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First game with a new team. Mainly older players. Not too many standouts. Handling core is weak. Our women are strong. I believe that I need to become a handler for the team after losing the game 12-8. Our captain has his head in the right place, firm yet not overbearing. This league will be fun!

One assist, three scores. No D's. One turn (early on, again).

Played as a cutter for the entirety of the game. When I got the disc I took a quick look up field followed by a quicker dump. Basically it for most of the game for me, offensively. When I got to the endzone I cut without thinking about it, looking for holes. This reflex didnt serve me in the area between bricks so much. Part of it was due to my indecision and another part due to a weak handler-cutter relationship. By this I mean they havent played enough with me to understand what I do. This will come with time, but it will come quicker if I am more decisive about cutting.

My assist was pure luck. Their teams best player against our teams fastest woman. He thought it was out the endzone, but she kept with it, perfectly timing her jump to just barely toe it in. She saved my ass and taught me a lesson: never stop attacking the disc, even when against great odds. Flick huck by the way. It slowly floated up, not sure if it bounced or not but it was certainly a low release so some bounce might have come into play.

I got broken way too often. Overconfidence in the mark and my fellow defenders. I'll play more conservative. For some reason I covered handlers most of the time. Their handling core was experienced and quick. I tried to force them to cut a certain way, which they would do, but then immediately cut where I wasnt expecting, where I didnt want them to cut. The way to improve upon this is quickness and experience. Really concentrate on staying on the balls of my feet.

I want to play defense more. Need to work on my body position and forcing my cutter to go where I want him.

If my man poaches off of me, cut deep immediately.

As usual, I want to get back on the field. Couldn't happen sooner. 9 comments

Bobby: Summer League- 6/14 updated

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First time playing ultimate in over a week, damn it feels good. Been busy lifting boxes all week, annoying and painful: my back was bugging me all game and I am out of shape from where I want to be due to this, I don't mean to make everything a lesson but physical fitness and well being are vital to be most effective when you play, make sure to take good care of yourself to stay in prime ultimate condition. Otherwise, it was a great game, we played easily the best opponents we have played so far this summer season, they worked the disc well and had a lot of experience/a couple of them were wearing the same college jerseys, it always helps to have experience playing with people. We definitely had the advantage physically though which lead them to run a strong defense that i'll talk about later. We ended up winning a hard fought 15-13 game.

Not too much interesting going on for me today offensively, played very consistently mostly of my catches were on in cuts, only had one turn which honestly should have been caught also threw 2 assists and one score. One thing that worked particularly well on a deep cut was that I started to clear in then busted deep again, kinda like a little stutter step, worked well and burned my man really easily

We played a different type of zone than I'm used to today which was a 3-3-1, kinda interesting basically you have the 3 front men in the cup with one of the side guys switching off to the mark (force middle so when its on the sideline the man who would be guarding the up line part of the cup is the mark and forces towards the 2 remaining members of the cup). Then there is the next three with the 2 on the outside playing as wings pretty much like in our zone where they play the area and pinch in to cut off the field but kinda play man within their zone (our wings were not very strong which weakened the effectiveness of our zone. In the middle is what they were calling the shallow deep, its basically his job to cover the over/through the cup throws and the position of the offensive zone players is relayed to him by the deep-deep who does the same as our 6 and guards against the huck, I played the deep-deep which was really fun as there were d chances all over the place I think I had like 5-6 in our zone defense (like 3 more playing man with a few damn close misses on bids), not sure how this style of the zone matches up with the one that we run definitely seemed to work well though despite the lack of wind, though much of this can probably be explained by the general lack of coordination that a summer league team playing in their 3rd game is sure to experience, can you offer your thoughts niji?

On a funny/weird note, my team calls me either monster or animal cause of my play its pretty flattering i guess but i cant really take it too seriously, its kinda funny how the quality of play in college is so high

Finally got a semi point block (hand) wooo, barely fouled the man though so i guess it doesn't really count, but im definitely improving my mark, in fact you might say it has improved markedly, its all about intensity (make sure not to over commit though) in the past I definitely treated it as a little bit of a break, that is just inexcusable

The other team played a defense that worked remarkably well by forcing no hucks on the mark and then forcing us out on cutter d, I think apart of this d's success was our team's inexperience in some ways but they also had some inexperience so I feel like its porbably relatively easy to run, also I know we ran it a few times last year, but i definitely think we should in the future

We started doing the same thing at one point and it definitely worked quite effectively, though I don't like that style of defense as much as this made me realize that the way I play defense is that I try to react more to what the thrower is trying to do than my man (while still keeping up with my man) therefore I always like keeping the handler in my field of view, I think this tactic works pretty damn well for the most part i guess sometimes I can tend to lose my man a little, you guys want to elaborate on how you most effectively play defense/the potential weaknesses of mine? 3 comments

Bobby: Summer League- 6/2

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Finally got to play some real ultimate today for the first time since regionals, it was pretty awesome, took a bit to get back in to the swing of things but going into half and afterwords I asserted myself into the game and began kinda dominate on both sides of the disc, I'm pretty sure I am the best player on the field for my team and we aren't a bad team; this is definitely a nice feeling, I'll have to use this opportunity well. Anyway, we won 15-6.

Some quick things that I'm gonna write down real quick before I head to bed, I will come back to this and expand on it later.

1) I threw a bullet flick for a score today which was the best option at the time, which reminded me there is a time and a place for almost every throw and working on developing all throws is an important goal

2) I wanted to work on cutting so I kinda didn't speak up when they asked if I could handle (probably a mistake) but I'm pretty sure that I have some of the better throws on the team so I'm gonna speak up for next time, I should try to step into the handler role a little bit while I'm playing with this team, also shows how much you can improve throwing if you put the time in, as there were people who had been playing for more than 7 years that I had better throws than

3) I kinda realized how incredibly important athleticism is for cutting, I am definitely one of the more athletic people out there on the field and I was able to cut rather effectively, need to continue to build this up especially on my direction changing

4) If I bid a step earlier and make the first step to try to make a play a second earlier I will start to come up with a lot of plays, bidding is a ton of fun but it still sucks to just miss. In general decision making and my first step needs to be just a little bit faster, when the game slows down you need to think about what your doing, but the second action begins you need to put this behind you and just react.

5)A bit of a side note, I need to try to remember how I was pulling today as I started to put some really good air underneath them and we were able to get down to our men before the disk even dropped a lot of the times, which is truthfully an amazing advantage

6) My mark was actually pretty decent today, kinda went with a new approach of jumping around a little bit and trying to distract the thrower also i took a half-step back, seemed to work to some degree and the extra motion that I was making definitely made me quicker on my feet, something to work on is knowing when to use different kinds of marks on different throwers

7) Concerning your last post Niji i realized that one of the best ways to get others to play with more intensity is to have intensity yourself, it is awesome to see the entire team pick up their game a little bit after you make a sweet bid or a great throw you can communicate the need for intensity with actions almost as well as with words

8) I feel like there is a way that everyone should be able to talk about the game while in a game, for now I will call this captain speak. Basically in my view it is either when you are just intense enough about the game so that you keep everyone focused or you are able to keep the team loose while not distracting them from the game at hand, but the best of this is when a person can do both and know which of these approaches to go for in different circumstances in games. This is something that I want to develop personally, as having the ability to keep the team in the game through talking to your team is a vital aspect of frisbee and is something everyone should work on.

On kinda a random note, any frisbee that isn't William & Mary frisbee (all of it) for me right now is practice and although I want to win just like in practice I treat it like practice in a lot of ways. It is important in frisbee to set your priorities and goals and then work towards them, mine being making myself better so that I can make W&M frisbee better next year, this should be the goal of all members of the team this summer.

Also a bit of house keeping here, I don't know how to title these so that its easier to tell whether whose it is just by the title, cause if we are all writing about summer league/practices once school begins again it may get confusing... thoughts? 1 comments